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Old 10-07-2009, 01:57 PM
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After first arriving there (4045'29.68"N 12038'23.78"E) I was a bit doubtful if this could really be the Great Wall. However I soon found what appears to be the remains of a watch tower, and close to the tower there were some remains of the well known Ming dynasty grey brick. In the middle of nowhere I find these small pieces of grey brick a good sign of this once being a Ming dynasty wall.

This is a quote from my book about Xingcheng:

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The line of the wall and the foundations of watchtowers can still be seen on the nearby ridge, following the watershed. However, all that remains today is a continuous line of dry stone rubble, with piles of rock at the tower site. The rammed earth fill which makes up the core of the Great Wall eroded away after the outer skin of stone cladding was plundered for building material
Based on the above there is not much to see today, and after going there today I have to agree.

Remains of the well known grey bricks:

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This was probably a watch tower:

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Very difficult to see but under the bushes the remains of the wall is very clear.

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Here it's a bit easier to see:

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There's a lot of rubble in this area:

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Stone rubble marking the sad remains of the wall:

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Stone rubble marking the sad remains of the wall:

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Stone rubble marking the sad remains of the wall:

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"Sad" is the right word. But the results of your investigation might encourage us to look for Liaoning walls less conservative. We also might understand why there is so little left there.


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"Sad" is the right word. But the results of your investigation might encourage us to look for Liaoning walls less conservative. We also might understand why there is so little left there.


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Yes, truly sad. According to my Mohucun post some of the wall here seems to be in a bit better condition although very difficult to see and get to.

According to the information I have, the Xingcheng wall was build in 1442. I'm guessing Hongluoshan is younger than that, which might explain why this is so much better preserved.
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Kim sounds just GW expert , i think chinese GW association ought to ask him to join them now .
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Kim sounds just GW expert , i think chinese GW association ought to ask him to join them now .
I will be waiting for their invitation
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