Photos! Suizhong County - Unknown Dynasty

[Kim]

On the way to Manzhicao I visited some wall here: 40°10'36.54"N 119°48'26.66"E

Not much of the wall is left so it must be very old, but I don't know what dynasty it is. There is even some traces of towers - a big pile of stones. I wonder if it could be related to the Pantaoyu wall in Hebei.

[Kim]

This section looks a lot like other Liaoning sections further east:

Mohucun (摸虎村)

I'm sure it's an early Ming construction.

BTW this thread should be moved to the Suizhong sub-forum.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by Kim

BTW this thread should be moved to the Suizhong sub-forum.

Which Suizhong forum? Jinniudong, Shixiakou, Manzhicao, or Zhuizishan? Or do we need an "Other Suizhong areas" forum?

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Bryan

Which Suizhong forum? Jinniudong, Shixiakou, Manzhicao, or Zhuizishan? Or do we need an "Other Suizhong areas" forum?

Sorry. It should be in Other Suizhong areas.

[Kim]

Please move this thread to Suizhong Other Area.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by Kim

Please move this thread to Suizhong Other Area.

Done. Sorry you had to ask twice!

[Kim]

This section might be called Songling (松岭).

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Kim

I'm sure it's an early Ming construction.

Build during the Hongwu’s reign (1368 - 1398), so that makes it very early Ming.

[chinoook]

Originally Posted by Kim

Build during the Hongwu’s reign (1368 - 1398), so that makes it very early Ming.

Source?


-chinoook

[Kim]

Originally Posted by chinoook

Source?


-chinoook

It might not be the best source, but it's the best I can find

http://www.chinatravel.com/liaoning/...ou-great-wall/

The source mention:

One lies at the southwest boundary of Lijia, Yong’an and Jiabeiyan town, with the total length of 31 kilometers.

The boundary between Lijia (40° 6'32.15"N 119°48'22.99"E) and Yong'an (40°13'58.65"N 119°48'47.28"E) town seems okay according to the maps I can find.

However this might only imply the wall between Chengziyuguan (40°13'18.06"N 119°37'33.64"E) and Zhuizishan (40°12'20.67"N 119°44'15.90"E) which more correctly is located in Liaoning and not Hebei, and not the wall in question (that would explain why Jiabeiyan is mentioned). According to The Ming Dynasty Great Wall in Huludao Suizhong the wall in Huludao was build on top of an old Northern Qi wall during the Hongwu reign, so the information in the two sources seems to match.

After thinking more about it, I'm not sure if it is correct to say that the wall described in this thread is the wall mentioned in the source - I don't think it is. Then this wall might be a continuation of the older Northern Qi wall that part of the Ming wall was build on