Discussion of changes for version 3 of the forum map of The Great Wall of China

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by chinoook

A crash of GE destroyed all the work of today. I will have to redo tomorrow. Until I did the file should be kept closed.

How frustrating! I have had a couple of GE crashes and every time it's the fault of the video display driver. It's maddening if you have been working for a while. In fact I back up my work occasionally if working extensively in GE (or anything else for that matter).

Originally Posted by chinoook

Could you please tell me where to find your Northern Qi findings at Simatai? (post #, thread)?

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[Bryan]

I found the pin for the Shentangyu fortress (Ming Dynasty Great Wall/Fortresses/Beijing/Shentangyu/Shentangyu fortress) is the wrong style. It's a big yellow pin and it should be a small (0.5) green pin to match the other fortresses.

[Bryan]

The Mapquest paths (yellow) have been very helpful in finding the Great Wall. But I think that in places where we have found the Great Wall, they are no longer needed since our paths (red) are much more accurate. Therefore, I feel that in places where our paths are obviously more accurate than the Mapquest paths, the Mapquest paths should be deleted. This screen shot from Huairou illustrates.

I volunteer to delete the superfluous Mapquest paths if you guys agree it's a good idea.

[Kim]

The Mapquest paths (yellow) have been very helpful in finding the Great Wall. But I think that in places where we have found the Great Wall, they are no longer needed since our paths (red) are much more accurate. Therefore, I feel that in places where our paths are obviously more accurate than the Mapquest paths, the Mapquest paths should be deleted. This screen shot from Huairou illustrates.

I volunteer to delete the superfluous Mapquest paths if you guys agree it's a good idea.

Seems like a good idea since the Mapquest no longer provide any useful information.

[chinoook]

Same with the RMM where it is not needed any longer.
Long ago (about two months ;-)) I thougt about a Ming main line map by using at any location the best available line. Which could be GE HR data (1. grade, 2. GE LR data, where the wall is visible (rare) 3. paths of people who can deliver information about how close they walked along the wall ("Chinoooks walk", still unfinished), 4. RMM, 5. Mapquest, 6. overlays from books, maps, ..., 7. other.

This would result in the best (for us) available path. But it is a lot of work.
At the moment I am busy at different building sites.


-chinoook

[Bryan]

I will start deleting (and shortening if necessary) the unneeded Mapquest paths. I agree that the same thing would be useful for the RMM paths, but I want to do the Mapquest paths first since they're being distributed with the release map. When I finish with Mapquest, I can start with RMM. I won't need the main file for this work; I will just work in the Mapquest and RMM folders. These folders can be placed in the main map later when it's available.

Originally Posted by chinoook

Long ago (about two months ;-)) I thougt about a Ming main line map by using at any location the best available line. Which could be GE HR data (1. grade, 2. GE LR data, where the wall is visible (rare) 3. paths of people who can deliver information about how close they walked along the wall ("Chinoooks walk", still unfinished), 4. RMM, 5. Mapquest, 6. overlays from books, maps, ..., 7. other.

This would result in the best (for us) available path. But it is a lot of work.
At the moment I am busy at different building sites.

I think this is a good idea. I assume we're talking about a Jiayuguan to Shanhaiguan line. There are places, such as the inner and outer walls to the west of Beijing, where we might want to incude more than one "main line". But it would be a very nice reference and would replace the current "base" line. I volunteer to do this project too, when the time comes.

[Bryan]

I'm finding that the "Move to Hebei" items are missing from the 20080726 map. Were these items added and then later lost, or were they never added? I felt sure that they had made their way into the main map but they're definitely missing now.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by greatwallforum

I will start deleting (and shortening if necessary) the unneeded Mapquest paths. I agree that the same thing would be useful for the RMM paths, but I want to do the Mapquest paths first since they're being distributed with the release map. When I finish with Mapquest, I can start with RMM. I won't need the main file for this work; I will just work in the Mapquest and RMM folders. These folders can be placed in the main map later when it's available.

What do you guys think about Mapquest (or RMM) lines where we know there is no Great Wall, such as Nankou? Should we keep these or delete them?

[chinoook]

Originally Posted by greatwallforum

I'm finding that the "Move to Hebei" items are missing from the 20080726 map. Were these items added and then later lost, or were they never added? I felt sure that they had made their way into the main map but they're definitely missing now.

I am done soon with my map work, I will include that file and release today.


-chinoook

[chinoook]

Originally Posted by greatwallforum

What do you guys think about Mapquest (or RMM) lines where we know there is no Great Wall, such as Nankou? Should we keep these or delete them?

Delete. We don't go for Mapquest, we go for the best GW map available.


-chinoook