Maps: Great Wall Map Version 5

[Bryan]

The Great Wall Forum is proud to announce version 5 of our comprehensive map of the Great Wall of China. This map is provided as a kmz file for use with Google Earth and packaged as an msi file for use with Microsoft Windows. You must have Google Earth installed on a Microsoft Windows computer to install and view it. You can download and install Google Earth free.

The map is free, but you must comply with the license agreement to use it. Basically, the agreement contains these rules:

• The map is only for personal, non-commercial use.
• You may not copy, redistribute, or modify the map.
• You are strongly urged to help protect and preserve the Great Wall.

The map is a community project. Users are encouraged to contribute additions, corrections, and suggestions. Special thanks to our members chinoook and Kim, who provided the majority of the data and did most of the work in creating this map.

Only forum members can download the map. Guests must register before downloading the attached map.

Please note that this map does not represent all of the data we have generated so far. Certain locations and categories have been omitted for various reasons. Please let us know if you are interested in the complete map.

Please note also that this map is large and contains much detail. Therefore, it may take a long time for it to load in Google Earth. Please be patient and allow time for it to load.

The Great Wall of China map is a work in progress. This release is dated 2010/01/01 (1 January 2010). Please check back regularly for updates as we continually improve the map.

We also have a detailed map of the Beijing area Great Wall which includes driving routes, hiking trails, and more.

[sophie]

Thank you for the new map.

[Luggi]

I'm new and I have now idea where to post it xD
so I post it here.

Here are some parts which are missing in your Map.

1th: http://high-iso.de/other/missing%20parts.kmz
2nd: http://high-iso.de/other/Great%20Wall.kmz
3rd: http://high-iso.de/other/more_wall.kmz

1th kmz shows the Missing Area in your Map
2nd kmz shows my Track you can use it for free

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by Luggi

I'm new and I have now idea where to post it xD
so I post it here.

Here are some parts which are missing in your Map.

1th: http://high-iso.de/other/missing%20parts.kmz
2nd: http://high-iso.de/other/Great%20Wall.kmz
3rd: http://high-iso.de/other/more_wall.kmz

1th kmz shows the Missing Area in your Map
2nd kmz shows my Track you can use it for free

Hello, Luggi. Welcome to the forum! This is the perfect place for your post. Your "missing parts" file shows two areas which I agree are Great Wall sections that are missing from our map.

It's hard for me to tell about the "more_wall" file. I hope some other members will give their opinions on these files too.

Thank you very much for your submission!

[chinoook]

Hi Luggi,

welcome to the forum.

Some of your findings are quite suprising to me. Far off any known wall you find obvious items. Thanks for contributing them. Some of them will find their way in our map.

Some of your "Todo" findings are very interesting too.

I am absoultely puzzled by your "more" finding. The structure seems to be old. It is a bit too linear to me to be Great Wall and I do not understand the strategical location. I do not have any idea what this really is. I do not think it is Ming GW, maybe it is something else or even nothing. Difficult to clearify from here.

How did you find all these places? Do you have a special approach to the GW of China?


-chinoook

Originally Posted by Luggi

I'm new and I have now idea where to post it xD
so I post it here.

Here are some parts which are missing in your Map.

1th: http://high-iso.de/other/missing%20parts.kmz
2nd: http://high-iso.de/other/Great%20Wall.kmz
3rd: http://high-iso.de/other/more_wall.kmz

1th kmz shows the Missing Area in your Map
2nd kmz shows my Track you can use it for free

[Kim]

Originally Posted by Luggi

I'm new and I have now idea where to post it xD
so I post it here.

Here are some parts which are missing in your Map.

1th: http://high-iso.de/other/missing%20parts.kmz
2nd: http://high-iso.de/other/Great%20Wall.kmz
3rd: http://high-iso.de/other/more_wall.kmz

1th kmz shows the Missing Area in your Map
2nd kmz shows my Track you can use it for free

Welcome to the forum Luggi and thank you very much for sharing your findings!

To comment on your findings.

missing%20parts.kmz:

One very clear finding in Ningxia, but I very much doubt the finding in Hebei. I don't see any sign of a wall at the Hebei pin other than natural rock. With a hight of 2700 meter this area would most likely be considered a natural barrier.

Great%20Wall.kmz:

Nice work but some of the parts don't have any Great wall, for example here: 40°26'27.83"N 118°15'3.09"E / 40°26'34.90"N 118°15'38.90"E

more_wall.kmz:

Looks very interesting, but I don't think it's old - the whole look of it does not seem like an old wall in my opinion.

Todo:

Most of them look doubtful in my opinion.

[Luggi]

Originally Posted by chinoook

How did you find all these places? Do you have a special approach to the GW of China?


-chinoook

Just by searching on Google Earth

Topic "more_wall":
I'm quite sure (NOT 100%!) that this is the wall. If you follow this line into southern you will see that some areas looks like ruins. It is to broken for being a road or something else. And the course could be right.

EDIT: You can fly to this placemark: 38°54'45.86"N 105°48'50.54"E (the best proof for beeing a ruin, because the line is hiding into the fields)

[chinoook]

Originally Posted by Luggi

Topic "more_wall":
I'm quite sure (NOT 100%!) that this is the wall. If you follow this line into southern you will see that some areas looks like ruins. It is to broken for being a road or something else. And the course could be right.

EDIT: You can fly to this placemark: 38°54'45.86"N 105°48'50.54"E (the best proof for beeing a ruin, because the line is hiding into the fields)

It is easy: It is not "The Wall" because the Ming main line is well understood and runs on the east flank of the Helan Shan mountains.
The question is only: is this _any_ Great Wall. The Qin Great wall (which is close) always runs in the mountains or at least in the hills if there are some. I do not know wether any other dynasty GW was ever there in Ningxia. From the shape fo the structure you show I think first of the Han GW which was not there but some hundred kilometers in the north (two Han Great Walls!).
The "ruins" in my eyes are something related to farming. A fortress would moust probably (not always) be built on the "inner" side of the wall and be much larger (we know several remaining Han fortresses).


-chinoook

[Luggi]

Ok, I thought it was this Part, western from Shizuishan:

[chinoook]

Originally Posted by Luggi

Ok, I thought it was this Part, western from Shizuishan:

As I wrote before: This section of (Ming) GW is running on the east flank of the Helanshan mountains. You find it here: 38°19'53.78"N 105°50'7.32"E.
It is the continuation of the section you found further in the south.


-chinoook