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Old 10-08-2008, 04:34 PM
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Information Lengkou information

Chinese: 冷口
Pinyin: Lěng kǒu

Chinese: 冷口关
Pinyin: Lěng kǒu guān

English: Cold pass
GPS coordinates: 40°10'22"N 118°50'10"E
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Old 01-28-2009, 10:14 AM
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This is the right location of Lengkouguan: 40°10'22.23"N 118°50'9.64"E
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This is the right location of Lengkouguan: 40°10'22.23"N 118°50'9.64"E
Thanks! I changed it in this thread (after rounding to the nearest inch) and also in the Great Wall GPS coordinates thread.
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Thanks! I changed it in this thread (after rounding to the nearest inch) and also in the Great Wall GPS coordinates thread.
I guess you mean nearest second?
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I guess you mean nearest second?
You're right.
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I was back in the Lengkou area today - fortunately the weather was much better and only a big haze, but I guess that is difficult to avoid in northern China.

I'm sure andarchen will be delighted that I spotted another possible small fortress here: 40°10'56.96"N 118°53'0.88"E

The Baiyangyu-Lengkou-Liujiakou is truly a very interesting section of the Great Wall and especially the Lengkou area. I'm a bit confused about the different ways of construction in a relatively small area. Most of the wall in this area is stone wall with brick watch towers, but some parts of the wall is made of brick and some of the stone section don't seem to have any towers but only stone platforms.

There is not much information available in English, but I guess the different type of constructing might be the result of different building periods. Nearby Liujiakou was first build in 1368-1399 and later rebuilt in 1578, so something similar is probably the case for Lengkou. The pass town and watch towers at Lengkou was build during the period of Qi Jiguang (1528-1588).

Most likely the section as build in the early Ming Dynasty, and then fortified with watch towers when the pass town was build.

The northern part of the loop at Lengkou is pure stone wall without any bricks tower, while the southern part of the loop seems to be a mixture of brick and stone wall with brick towers. Is it possible then that the northern part is the original early Ming wall and the southern part was added later? I don't have any information to support this theory but it seems likely at least.

Please see the attached Google Earth file of additional information about the construction at Lengkou.

http://greatwall.se/upload/greatwall...engkouwall.kmz
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Nice find ! Kim
Mr.hongfong had said that 12 fortresses on 12 peaks is not suprised on ancient time , so i believe 12 fortresses at lengkou will be found by Google earth finally .
As for your futher question about stone/brick wall with/without tower , i felt shame ,because you knew greatwall more than i .
anyway ,i agreed you said that both time and technology are factors.
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This is the fortress at 40°10'56.96"N 118°53'0.88"E:

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Not very big but as I understand the description of Heliukou there is only one big fortress (40°10'23.87"N 118°50'28.65"E) and the rest are small.

This might also be a fortress: 40°10'10.71"N 118°53'42.63"E. It is an integrated part of the wall but too big to be just a normal tower.
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... I'm a bit confused about the different ways of construction in a relatively small area. Most of the wall in this area is stone wall with brick watch towers, but some parts of the wall is made of brick and some of the stone section don't seem to have any towers but only stone platforms.[/url]
Hi, Kim
I had posted your confusion in Chinese GW forum this morning ,let us expect some respones . Please refer to link :
http://www.thegreatwall.com.cn/phpbb...3769&forumid=1
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Hi, Kim
I had posted your confusion in Chinese GW forum this morning ,let us expect some respones . Please refer to link :
http://www.thegreatwall.com.cn/phpbb...3769&forumid=1
Thanks, I really wish I could read more than just a few Chinese characters. There is a lot of informations out there but most of it is in Chinese, especially regarding the less famous places away from Beijing
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