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  • Photos! Datong Great Wall

    On the way to the North, several structures akin to Towers were spotted.
    Last edited by Ken; 06-13-2013, 12:29 PM. Reason: .

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    Hiking the Wall was made more difficult by the altitude.









    The Wall is built on top of a foundation which seems separate from the main wall.

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      re: Datong Great Wall

      A visit to the Qinghai Provincial Museum yielded no information about the Great Wall in Qinghai province. What is known and what was shown at the museum was the presence of the Sui Dynasty in Qinghai. It is well-known that the Emperor
      Sui Yang Di visited this part of China and his favourite concubine is buried near the Datong Great Wall. According to our maps, there indeed are many tower like structures around Xining. However, the museum showed us that Tibetan graves have a Tower like structure above the grave which can be confusing with actual Great Wall Towers. I have also seen rammed earth walls on mountains- these are not related to Great Wall but to keep animals within and to surround cemeteries. Stay tuned.

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        Re: Datong Great Wall

        Sui Great Wall during the Reign of Yangdi

        Sui Great Wall in
        Yanchi County, Ningxia When Emperor Yangdi came to the throne in 604, he instigated two more Great Wall construction projects.

        1). During 607, a labor force of millions was levied to extend the wall from the east of today's Youyu County of Shanxi Province to the southwest of Toketo County of Inner Mongolia.
        2). The other section commenced at Xining City of Qinghai Province in the west, but the location of the eastern extremity of this section is not recorded.

        These two sections had no strategic purpose beyond displaying the military power that prevailed during the rule of Emperor Yangdi.

        Are you sure this is Ming Dynasty and not Sui Dynasty Great Wall?

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          Re: Datong Great Wall

          It is Ming.


          -chinoook
          chinoook's 1st law: Structurally weak walls tend to have double structures.
          chinoook's 2nd law: Newer walls are built next older walls, not over them.
          chinoook's 3rd law: Similar problems lead to similar solutions.

          The most dangerous worldview is the worldview of people, who have not viewed the world. (Alexander von Humboldt (1769-1859), German naturalist and explorer)

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            Re: Datong Great Wall

            Btw: The title of this thread (Re: Datong Great Wall) is intended?


            -chinoook
            chinoook's 1st law: Structurally weak walls tend to have double structures.
            chinoook's 2nd law: Newer walls are built next older walls, not over them.
            chinoook's 3rd law: Similar problems lead to similar solutions.

            The most dangerous worldview is the worldview of people, who have not viewed the world. (Alexander von Humboldt (1769-1859), German naturalist and explorer)

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              Re: Datong Great Wall

              Yes, the title is intended as this stretch of the wall is situated in 大通县, Datong County, north of Xining.

              Special thanks and acknowledgement must be made to Chinoook for his knowledge and expertise in this region, for without him, it would have been impossible to visit or even know the existence of this Wall.

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                Re: Datong Great Wall

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                Last edited by Ken; 06-15-2013, 04:24 AM.

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                  Re: Datong Great Wall

                  Originally posted by Ken View Post
                  The Wall is built on top of a foundation which seems separate from the main wall.
                  Ming on top of Sui?

                  Originally posted by Ken
                  Yes, the title is intended as this stretch of the wall is situated in 大通县, Datong County, north of Xining.
                  Got it. Thx.



                  -chinoook
                  chinoook's 1st law: Structurally weak walls tend to have double structures.
                  chinoook's 2nd law: Newer walls are built next older walls, not over them.
                  chinoook's 3rd law: Similar problems lead to similar solutions.

                  The most dangerous worldview is the worldview of people, who have not viewed the world. (Alexander von Humboldt (1769-1859), German naturalist and explorer)

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                    Re: Datong Great Wall

                    Originally posted by PeterLee View Post
                    Sui Great Wall during the Reign of Yangdi

                    Sui Great Wall in

                    2). The other section commenced at Xining City of Qinghai Province in the west, but the location of the eastern extremity of this section is not recorded.

                    These two sections had no strategic purpose beyond displaying the military power that prevailed during the rule of Emperor Yangdi.
                    I doubt that. To whom should the military power be displayed? To the people of Tubo? The wall we find there is not really impressive. It might fulfill it's strategic meaning, but it is nothing for display of anything.
                    It might have been rather an administrative border (like many "walls" in the ancient world: e.g. the Roman walls in Europe, the Willow Palisade in Dongbei, ...). Without a closer look I am not able to determine that.
                    The quoted sentence seems to me like many of those. Rewritten without any understanding of the thing out there.


                    -chinoook
                    chinoook's 1st law: Structurally weak walls tend to have double structures.
                    chinoook's 2nd law: Newer walls are built next older walls, not over them.
                    chinoook's 3rd law: Similar problems lead to similar solutions.

                    The most dangerous worldview is the worldview of people, who have not viewed the world. (Alexander von Humboldt (1769-1859), German naturalist and explorer)

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                      Re: Datong Great Wall

                      Originally posted by Ken View Post
                      According to our maps, there indeed are many tower like structures around Xining. However, the museum showed us that Tibetan graves have a Tower like structure above the grave which can be confusing with actual Great Wall Towers.
                      This is great information, Ken.
                      I always was curious about what these structures are. I was sure: no towers. But I did not have any idea why this are shows so many strange things which catch the attention of anyone who does remote sensing work.


                      -chinoook
                      chinoook's 1st law: Structurally weak walls tend to have double structures.
                      chinoook's 2nd law: Newer walls are built next older walls, not over them.
                      chinoook's 3rd law: Similar problems lead to similar solutions.

                      The most dangerous worldview is the worldview of people, who have not viewed the world. (Alexander von Humboldt (1769-1859), German naturalist and explorer)

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