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  • #16
    Okok, the water thing. In early summer in the western desert I had to carry 8l. Making the 10kg pack idea a bit difficult. But water vanishes soon. An there is no choice.
    Totally different from carrying 16kg on your free will ...

    chinoook's 1st law: Structurally weak walls tend to have double structures.
    chinoook's 2nd law: Newer walls are built next older walls, not over them.
    chinoook's 3rd law: Similar problems lead to similar solutions.

    The most dangerous worldview is the worldview of people, who have not viewed the world. (Alexander von Humboldt (1769-1859), German naturalist and explorer)


    • #17
      Yes but I think they were probably calculating the water in with the 16... fhs
      If you're tired of the Great Wall, you're tired of life.
      Journeys, &c


      • #18
        I was certainly including water/food/booze weight in the 16kg. I didn't intend that to become such a flashpoint. I routinely do week-long or longer treks over steep, treacherous terrain that's often much slower than 1km/hour, but admittedly I haven't hiked on the GW before. If it's possible to get food along the way, that would obviously save several kgs, and I'm sure I could also trim a bit off of my base weight.
        ​​​​​​Again, thanks for all the great feedback!


        • #19
          Haha it's not a flashpoint that's just Chinoook & me mucking around as we always do.

          It is possible to pick up basics along the way at various villages but not, probably, the kind of stuff you're used to or want to eat. In reality these "through hikes" - even short ones - are a bit of a hassle and it's hard to say if they're worth it. It's often a lot more fun to travel very light and just camp overnight where you have to, and then use cheap guesthouses in the villages to stay the night. they'll ccok you food and give you beer and then you continue along the next day.

          Particularly on the Longquanyu to Qinglongxia route you can do the whole thing without camping once if you plan it right; or camp as you like here or there and use the villages the rest of the time.

          Regardless of the type of load we're used to carrying, I can tell you from experience on the GW (and elsewhere, I mean it really goes without saying) that the less you're carrying, the further you can go and the less tired you'll be. Arguably the end of that equation is "and the more fun you'll have".

          What many do, Chinoook included, and he's done it from Jiayuguan to the eastern coast, is what I describe above. Travel light, go far, stay at villages unless you really have to camp. To that I would add throwing in a few deliberate camps for the fun of it, but enjoying the wall more thoroughly by not being so exhausted at the end of each night from lugging all that is necessary up hill and down dale (and up hill again, and again, and again...).

          Some pics of parts of that route, so you can have an indication:

          This is between Huanghuacheng and Jiugongshan:

          Above Tiekuangyu:

          Between Moyashike and Beijing Knot:

          Eagles Fly Facing Upwards, western approach:

          Towards Shentangyu:

          If you're tired of the Great Wall, you're tired of life.
          Journeys, &c


          • #20
            Thanks for sharing the photos. It looks awesome! Challenging but stunning.