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Old 11-11-2009, 02:43 AM
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Hi Bryan,
Are you an expert of Great Wall or are you reach the Great Wall? I ask you help me now. I live in Gansu and I often passed by the Great Wall from Jiayuguan to Lanzhou along the highway by bus, but I never have those material about this Great Wall, so I wnat to orangize such trip or I can walk it by myself in the future, can I get some information about it from you, such as the map, how long distance to walk a day, where can we make stop for overnight? Thank you very much.
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Old 11-11-2009, 02:59 AM
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Hi Bryan,
Are you an expert of Great Wall or are you reach the Great Wall? I ask you help me now. I live in Gansu and I often passed by the Great Wall from Jiayuguan to Lanzhou along the highway by bus, but I never have those material about this Great Wall, so I wnat to orangize such trip or I can walk it by myself in the future, can I get some information about it from you, such as the map, how long distance to walk a day, where can we make stop for overnight? Thank you very much.
There are other people who can help you much more than I can with regard to the Gansu Great Wall. We have members that have hiked the entire Gansu Ming Dynasty Great Wall. I have been to Dunhuang and Jiayuguan but did not do any lengthy hiking there.

I moved your thread to this forum, so let's see what kind of responses you get.

The map you need is the main Great Wall map. You can find it here.
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Old 11-11-2009, 03:14 AM
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Do you mean the Great Wall around Zhangye? Or did you find any signs like beacon towers along the national route G227?Can you tell us a bit more about what you have seen? I walked the entire Gansu Ming Great Wall in 2007, so I know any part of it quite well.


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Old 11-12-2009, 12:22 AM
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Hi Chinoook,
I means the entire Great Wall from Jiayuguan to Lanzhou(acturally end at Wushaoling I think), and sorry I dont have any new information about the Great Wall, even what I know about it very poor, so that is why I ask help for you. Would you like tell me your detail trip or your Hiking journal, such as what equipment need to prepare? how many kilmeters to walk a day? where are you stay for overnight? etc. I plan to experience it by myself or I will carry out the people to experience in the future. Thank you.
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:41 AM
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I means the entire Great Wall from Jiayuguan to Lanzhou(acturally end at Wushaoling I think), and sorry I dont have any new information about the Great Wall, even what I know about it very poor, so that is why I ask help for you.
As far as I know there is no Ming Great Wall between Jiayuguan and Lanzhou. There is supposed to be Great Wall of other dynasties but I have litte information about that. I assume there was no continuous wall but only beacon towers and fortresses scattered around the whole landscape, mainly along the rivers.
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Would you like tell me your detail trip or your Hiking journal, such as what equipment need to prepare? how many kilmeters to walk a day? where are you stay for overnight? etc.
You can read some here.
My equipment was normal light-weight backpacking equipment such as a sleeping bag, a mattress, summer cloths, medicine, a knife, walking sticks and so on. I went up to 58km a day. I mostly stayed outside in my sleeping bag. Since I did not carry a tent I slept either under the open sky or in caves or even farming huts. Some days I stayed at small hotels, some days I was invented to stay at local people's houses. Currently I am not longer through-hiking but visiting selected places of Non-Ming dynasty Great Wall as Qin, Jin, Han, and others. But I will conitinue my walk in Shanxi, but not this year. Two days ago I was walking together with Robert 27km of Ming/Qin Great Wall close to Yulin.


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Old 11-12-2009, 01:02 PM
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As far as I know there is no Ming Great Wall between Jiayuguan and Lanzhou.
I don't understand this statement.

The Ming Great Wall doesn't go exactly to Lanzhou, true, but it extends (not continuously) southwest from Jiayuguan in the general direction of Lanzhou.
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I don't understand this statement.

The Ming Great Wall doesn't go exactly to Lanzhou, true, but it extends (not continuously) southwest from Jiayuguan in the general direction of Lanzhou.
Where there is any wall? Where is evidence on GE?


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I currently don't have any GE at my hands (sitting in a Yulin hotel room). But I think I understand what you mean. What I was thinking about is the Lanzhou Loop, a thing I have often seen claimed but never seen prooved. I still doubt that there is such a thing from the Ming and am sceptical for some reasons that such a thing existed in other dynasties. To be not misunderstood: I mean a wall.


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I currently don't have any GE at my hands (sitting in a Yulin hotel room). But I think I understand what you mean. What I was thinking about is the Lanzhou Loop, a thing I have often seen claimed but never seen prooved. I still doubt that there is such a thing from the Ming and am sceptical for some reasons that such a thing existed in other dynasties. To be not misunderstood: I mean a wall.


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Yes, the Lanzhou Loop is not known to me either. I'm just talking about the main Ming Great Wall line from Jiayuguan southwest through Gansu, and I believe that's what Davidchen (and his potential customers) are most likely interested in.
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